Collapsology (SOCIETAL COLLAPSE, LOL!) with Dr. Joseph Tainter

What is your Roman Empire? It’s about to be this episode. What causes the big dogs to stumble and fall? Do societies collapse suddenly, or would one notice as it happens? What is a complex society – and is it better than a simple one? Depends on who you ask, and we went straight to the source: the legendary anthropologist, scholar, historian and author of “The Collapse of Complex Societies,” Dr. Joseph Tainter. New obsession awaits you in the fall of the Roman Empire, cities lost to the desert dust, diminishing returns, fiddling amid the flames, the worst beard in history, fossil fuels, fertilizer, bread, circus, hanging chads, and if you should go live on a small goat farm. Happy 250th birthday to the currently United States of America!

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Links to things we discussed:

Pittsburg meeting gets HEATED over data center on old golf course | KTVU

Bread and circuses 

The decline and fall of the roman denarius

Nero’s Rome burns

Rome Is Burning: Nero and the Fire That Ended a Dynasty

“Hanging chad”

Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000)

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists: Doomsday Clock

Haber process

Blog post: Notes on the Collapse of Complex Societies

'Doomsday Clock' stands at 85 seconds to midnight

Human Extinction: A History of the Science and Ethics of Annihilation by Emile Torres

The Light and Darkness of Dr. Fritz and Mr. Haber


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