Emmenology (MENOPAUSE & PERIMENOPAUSE) Part 1 with Dr. Monica Christmas, Dr. Mary Claire Haver and Dr. Lara Durgavich

Hormones. Mood swings. Brain fog. Night sweats. And why doesn’t your shoulder work? The time is here for this whopper of a 3-part series on menopause with a total of five Ologists. No matter what your age or gender, you owe it to the people in your life who go through this to understand it. Brilliant and charming Dr. Mary Claire Haver is an OB-GYN who wrote bestsellers “The New Menopause” and the just-released “The New Perimenopause” and hosts the podcast unPAUSED. The wonderful and warm Dr. Monica Christmas is a professor and clinician with decades of experience in menopause treatment,  and repeat guest Dr. Lara Durgavich is a primatologist who has some answers about why our species goes through “the change.” 

Part 2 covers what to DO about symptoms of menopause, from vagina creams to hormone replacement therapy to libido to brain clarity and the importance of lifting heavy stuff. 

And finally, Part 3 has advice for loved ones to help support people in their lives who are sailing the stormy seas of hormonal change.

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Browse Dr. Christmas’s papers on ResearchGate and follow her on Instagram 

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Buy Dr. Haver’s books, The New Menopause and The New Perimenopause

Follow Dr. Durgavich on Bluesky

Donations went to the Center for Food Equity in Medicine and St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital

Links to things we discussed:

Frozen Shoulder - American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons 

Frozen shoulder: Diagnosis and treatment of adhesive capsulitis - The American Journal of Medicine

(PDF) Prevalence and factors associated with shoulder pain among diabetic patients and menopausal women: evidence from the China health and retirement longitudinal study 

Frozen Shoulder: Causes, Symptoms, and the Link with Menopause | Brown University Health 

Hormone Therapy Appears to Reduce Risk of Shoulder Pain in Older Women | Duke Health

Characterization of reproductive hormonal dynamics in the perimenopause - PubMed 

Perimenopause: The Zone of Chaos - YouTube 

Menopause basics | Office on Women's Health  

Menopause Fact Sheet - World Health Organization

Myths and facts about perimenopause and fertility — Clearblue® 

Pregnancy still possible during perimenopause | UCLA Health 

Can You Get Pregnant During Perimenopause? 

Births in the United States, 2024 

Advanced maternal age - Wikipedia 

List of oldest mothers - Wikipedia 

UK woman, 59, world's oldest natural mother 

Oldest mother to conceive naturally | Guinness World Records 

National Vital Statistics Reports Volume 74, Number 3, March 6, 2025 

How Many Eggs Do You Have? At Birth, Age 30, 40, More 

Diminished Ovarian Reserve: Causes, Symptoms & Treatment 

Clinical treatise on the diseases of the ganglionic nervous system incidental to women at the decline of life

Duration of Menopausal Vasomotor Symptoms Over the Menopause Transition - PMC

Hot Flashes| The Menopause Society  

75% of people experience hot flashes during menopause, fewer than 50% get treatment. | UCLA Health

What Are Vasomotor Symptoms (Hot Flashes)? - Menopause

The efficacy and tolerability of SSRI/SNRIs in the treatment of vasomotor symptoms in menopausal women: a systematic review

Understanding brain fog and menopause | UT Physicians 

Brain fog in menopause: a health-care professional’s guide for decision-making and counseling on cognition 

Is Hormone Replacement Therapy a Risk Factor or a Therapeutic Option for Alzheimer’s Disease? - PMC

Menopause hormone therapy and risk of mild cognitive impairment or dementia: a systematic review and meta-analysis - The Lancet Healthy Longevity 

The impact of estradiol on serotonin, glutamate, and dopamine systems

Long-term cognitive effects of menopausal hormone therapy: Findings from the KEEPS Continuation Study | PLOS Medicine 

Understanding brain fog and menopause | UT Physicians 

Brain fog - The Menopause Charity 

Creatine in women's health: bridging the gap from menstruation through pregnancy to menopause - PubMed 

Why am I gaining weight so fast during menopause? And will hormone therapy help? - UChicago Medicine 

Midlife Weight Gain 

Neurobiological Underpinnings of the Estrogen – Mood Relationship - PMC 

Postmenopause: Signs, Symptoms & What To Expect

Polyendocrine metabolic ovarian syndrome, the new name for polycystic ovary syndrome: a multistep global consensus process - The Lancet 

What Is the Link Between FSH Levels and Menopause? 

Menopause | Penn Center for Women's Behavioral Wellness 

Follicle-stimulating hormone: More than a marker for menopause FSH as a frontier for women’s mental health - PMC 

Menopause | FDA 

Sex-Based Differences in Odds of Motor Vehicle Crash Injury Outcomes 

Closing the Women’s Health Gap: A $1 Trillion Opportunity to Improve Lives and Economies

Overview of the National Institutes of Health Investment in Women’s Health Research

Read "A New Vision for Women's Health Research: Transformative Change at the National Institutes of Health" at NAP.edu  

Total NIH Budget Authority: FY 2024 Operating Plan 

National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant funding for select conditions relevant to women’s health, fiscal years 2013–2023 

Menopause occurs late in life in the captive chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes) - PMC

Demographic and hormonal evidence for menopause in wild chimpanzees | Science

Menopause in Nonhuman Primates? - PMC

The evolution of menopause in toothed whales | Nature 

Sumatran Orangutan Merah | Saint Louis Zoo 

Baby orangutan pictures! L.A. Zoo welcomes new addition - Los Angeles Times

56-year-old chimp gives birth at zoo in Kansas 

Grandmother hypothesis - Wikipedia

Grandmothers and the evolution of human longevity: A review of findings and future directions 

The Grandmother Effect: Implications for Studies on Aging and Cognition - PMC 

Granny (orca) - Wikipedia 

Granny killer whales pass along wisdom—and extra fish—to their grandchildren | Science 

Reproductive Conflict and the Evolution of Menopause in Killer Whales


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